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Old 04-25-2004, 09:24 PM   #1
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I just purchased an Shakespeare Ocala X-17 recurve bow. It looks to be in excellent condition. Markings on the bow say +45+ KO2622C 60". I would like to purchase a string for this. My draw length is 28". I usually shoot a Mathews SQ2 compound Bow. But this is my first recurve. I have not had time to go to a pro shop for this. Can anyone help me. Thank you, samhuston1
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Old 04-25-2004, 11:18 PM   #2
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I sent ya a PM. Shoot him an email. Use, "Losthawg says you make a good string" in your subject line. He will only need your AMO for the bow and whether or not your bow can handle fastflight or B-50. Does it have reinforced tips?

I'd go with the B-50 personally till you get a handle on what your bow can do. Fastflight is thinner and you have to fit your nocks to it depending on how many strands you want on it and what kind of nocks you use.

Hope he can help. I'd post him on the public forum, but not sure if he'd want any extra business it may bring. Either way, he's good. Best of luck to ya.
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Old 04-26-2004, 07:12 PM   #3
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Thanks Losthawg i just shot him an email. I appreciate the tip. This is my first recurve so there is going to be alearning curve. I am pretty good with my Mathews Bow but I have always wanted to shot more traditional. Do you you shoot three fingers under or split? This bow came with a little platic arrow rest. Should I remove this and go with Bear hair or somthing? What about a bow stringer? Should I buy one of these. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks
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From my experience...

Okay. No two traditional archers are the same. Once you get that figured out, you can have a lot of fun with it. DEFINITELY GET A BOW STRINGER. I can't stress that enough. It's a safety factor as well as it will protect your bow's limbs from twisting.

I shoot split finger. I shoot what we call instinctive. I do not use a sighting method. Saying I don't use a sighting method does not mean I don't aim. I aim by practicing my form and with a consistant point, draw, anchor and release I am able to condition my shooting to account for different distances. Like shooting a basketball or throwing either a baseball or football. Takes a lot of practice. This is part of the enjoyment of traditional archery.

Shooting off the shelf and shooting off a rest both have their advantages and disadvantages. If you plan to shoot 3 under and gap your shots or use the point of your arrow to aim, shooting off a rest, I believe, would be the best option. This will allow you to use vanes, though feathers are recommended, as well as shoot with your bow in a more vertical position. This can be and usually is a more accurate shooting method than shooting instinctive. I've found that switching from or just experimenting with traditional when you've got a good experience base with compounds, this method used with a recurve bow, is a fairly easy transition. I've also found that these folks are fairly accurate starting out. Yet, I've also seen them reach a "flat" spot where their shooting accuracy will drop for a short period, then they'll go back up to a more accurate shot. Sort of like body building. First you lose weight, then you gain it back in a better quality of weight.

Shooting off the shelf, you can use a few different options. You can use velcro, calf hair, bear hair, even a leather tab. I use a leather tab. The hair and velcro will enhance how quiet your draw is. I would recommend this if you are shooting alluminum or carbon. I shoot wood arrows so the leather tab is adequate. Some folks believe, and I'm not going to argue against it, that using the hair or velcro will aid in the speed of the arrow. If you shoot off the shelf you will need to use feathers, aluminum, carbon or wood, you need to use feathers. The feathers will collapse and allow a cleaner launch off the shelf. This is more critical with a longbow than a recurve as the longbow is not cut to center to the degree that the recurve is. The longbow, for this reason, requires a little more cant. This serves two purposes. One, it opens up your sight window and second, it assists in keeping your arrow on the shelf through the shot. If you're right handed that translats to holding your bow canted with the top tip between the 1 and 2:00 position and the lower limb between the 7 and 8:00 position.

Whichever you choose to go with, I'm sure you'll have fun with it. Don't be alarmed if you've been shooting strictly recurve for a few days to hear your compound more acutely. There are fewer working parts, therefore less parts to make noise. I understand the compound manufacturers are getting better in this arena, which is good. You'll also notice with the recurve or longbow a lot of arrow "wobble" when you shoot. This is called the paradox. It is caused by the arrow bending around the bow. For this reason, the spine of your arrows is critical for quality arrow flight. The bow will shoot slower than the compound. Another reason to maintain your form through arrow impact.

When I'm working with my kids, I constantly remind them to keep their bow arm locked pointing at the target as if they were pointing their finger at an object.

If you're eye dominance is in opposition to your shooting arm, you can still make it work, however, many will recommed you shoot off your dominant eye's side. I'm left eyed and right handed. I shoot right handed and do fairly well as long as I can keep up a good practice routine. However, I can shoot left handed with a lighter weight bow almost as accurately with little or no practice.

I think I'm getting too much into it. I'll just answer questions, probably be easier that way. I really enjoy traditional archery. My compound shooting was less than mediocre and because of this I was at the point of giving up bowhunting. A buddy recommended I try a recurve just for the fun of it. I fell in love. I shortly went to shooting a longbow and though I have one of the best recurves made, I rarely shoot it as the longbow has my archery bone in a vice. Just love shooting my longbow.

Like I said, no two traditional archers are the same, therefore, don't hold what I tell you as "law" till you try and prove it yourself. Others may and will have different methods that can help you where my methods won't. You'll see. Hope you enjoy it the way I have. And above all, as with the compound, PICK A SPOT. "Aim small, miss small". The pick a spot advice can't be expressed enough.
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Old 04-27-2004, 06:38 PM   #5
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Thanks LostHawg I appreciate all the info. Hop[efully other people that shoot recurve will send me some tips. Thanks Sam
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Old 04-27-2004, 08:04 PM   #6
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haha i give him a month and he'll be selling the mathews!! lol good luck!!!!!!

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Old 04-27-2004, 09:11 PM   #7
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Good stuff losthawg, now only if you could shoot as well as you can type! :lol:
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Ouch, that just hurt!!! :lol: Biggen, you're one cruel dude. :twisted:
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Old 04-28-2004, 08:18 AM   #9
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:39 PM   #10
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hey Sam

Let me know if you need tips or anything else. I live up on the north side...Splendora. Welcome to the club.

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sam, you ever hear back from Greg?

He just got a new job, so he may be a bit busy. I personally think he makes the best string available (when he wants to :lol: )
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Do not put a fast-flight string on that bow. Stick with B-50. That older bow is not reinforced for fast-flight string. Welcome to trad archery.
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Old 05-28-2004, 10:35 AM   #13
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Sam,
You will need a 56" string for that bow, and I agree that you should stay with Dacron.
Lost,
Nice job on the info you posted. The one thing I would pass on to a new stick bow shooter, is to start your practice at very close distances. If you can't group your arrows at 5 yards, no need to be shooting at 20 yards
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Guys I bought my dacton from www.traditional-archery-supply.com, Jim was very helpful. I made my string for my old recurve and it looks great, maybe not like store bought but it looks great and works fine.
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Heres' another very good site for traditional archery supplies.

www.threeriversarchery.com

To get a lot of good information on traditional archery checkout www.tradgang.com and www.stickbow.com. Tradgang seems to have the more down to earth bowhunting traditional archery resources. I recommend it. You may even recognize some of the names there.

Here's a good source for arrows.

www.clearforkarchery.com

Hope you guys can use this.

Walking Eagle, Thanks for remembering the 5 yard rule for me. I forgot to throw that in there.
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