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		|  10-31-2007, 11:28 AM | #16 |  
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		|  10-31-2007, 04:03 PM | #17 |  
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 Dena - Given up on talkin about hunting from a ground blind already??
 I will do my best to get out there and join the group of hecklers..... you know I am good at that!!!
 
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		|  10-31-2007, 04:15 PM | #18 |  
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 If anyone would like a list of challenging tech questions feel free to send me a PM and I'll send them your way   Dena said last night that she is going to teach everyone how to tune there bow, build bowstrings, make cedar arrows, and time permitting even build a self-bow in about an hour 
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		|  10-31-2007, 10:00 PM | #19 |  
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 I knew her when she was one of the little people(....er....still is).   
 
 Congratulations Ms. Pro Staffer.  You really rock.
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		|  10-31-2007, 10:25 PM | #20 |  
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 Congrats Dena.  I'm proud of you and happy for you. 
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		|  11-01-2007, 09:00 AM | #21 |  
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 Thanks Chew!! 
Bullrdr, I did my ground blind gig!  Albeit not on stage, but from the ground blind section.  
  
BrandonH, you forgot the topic of "how to hide a body so no one can find it!!!"     I don't think tech stuff is on my agenda.  In fact, I know it is not!    Now, where is the disabling button for PMs... 
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		|  11-01-2007, 09:40 AM | #22 |  
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 Dena In real tissues, outcome-data manifestly exhibits … While impact momentum cannot be used as a stand-alonepredictor of penetration it does show
 positive correlation 
 with outcome penetration; it demonstrates  relevancy. Thismeans impact momentum can be used as a predictive function
 
 when all other arrow penetration factors are constant.With a constant arrow, real tissue data confirms: Average
 tissue penetration increase is
 directly proportional to theincrease in impact momentum. Several instances of this have
 been presented in Updates, and yet another will be showing up
 in the new Updates.
 Among actual outcomes, kinetic energy has failed to show
 positive correlation with tissue penetration. It is not useful
 as either predictor or predictive function.
 On casual observation it might appear that kinetic energy
 should be applicable. After all, a substantial portion of it
 is represented by the arrow's velocity, and arrow velocity is
 a contributive component to momentum. However, any direct
 kinetic energy application overlooks important factors: (1)
 the disproportional increase in penetration-resistance
 
 actually exhibited  by tissues as velocity increases; (2) themechanics of the impulse of force during penetration and; (3)
 the fact that, by its very definition, kinetic energy cannot
 be used as either a measure or indicator of force.
 It is due to disproportional resistance increase and
 impulse mechanics that the penetration/kinetic-energy
 relationship steadfastly exhibits decrement during tissue
 testing. The penetration-increase to kinetic-energy-increase
 ratio is not proportional.
 Decrement should not be confused with a negative
 correlation. It simply indicates that the rate of penetrationincrease
 constantly decreases as impact kinetic energy
 increases. With a constant arrow,will the percentage of
 penetration gain become smaller?
 
I have always wondered and didn't know who to ask.
 
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		|  11-01-2007, 10:00 AM | #23 |  
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 hmmmm...     so that's the answer.   
 
 
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		|  11-01-2007, 12:11 PM | #24 |  
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 Buff,  thanks for asking.
 In response to your question~
 
 Yes, with a constant arrow, the percentage of penetration
 gain becomes smaller each time impact kinetic energy is increased by a set amount.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
P.S.  I read Dr. Ed Ashby also.    2007 Study Update,
 ByDr. Ed Ashby
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		|  11-01-2007, 03:21 PM | #25 |  
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 Dena,   I still want to know which arrow is better, the XX75s Gametamers or the Easton XX75 Gamegetters. Also, which broadhead would be better, Hell Raiser from Thunderhead, or the Hell Razor that NAP makes?   Bob
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I still would like to know, which is more comfortable, the couch or the guest bed?   
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		|  11-02-2007, 09:14 AM | #28 |  
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  It really doesn't matter anymore, I have been on both for so long now.    Bob
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		|  11-03-2007, 02:48 PM | #29 |  
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 Dena congrats!! I remember when I was asked to be pro staff and writer for another outdoor magazine..I was pumped..still am but them darn editors...sure take my long story and make it short?? Congrats and proud for you |  
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 Congratulations Dena! 
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