Well I took an 8 point yesterday afternoon..Its not the biggest buck out there by any means. I put him at 3.5 years..I was kinda disappointed after I walked over to him I realized he was too young for a shooter on our lease. He fell inside the fence I have up to keep the hogs out. I spine shot him, he got up to run towards the fence & I put another arrow in him. The second one hit the mark..heart shot. It was cool to take a buck & watch him fall with my son in the blind with me.