Crossbows - Page 2

NDNRoger · 06-11-2009, 02:51 PM

OMG....

Are you aware that the LSBA is a 501.3.c non profit designed to fight for bow hunters rights in Texas? Do you know that we must follow the By-Laws, part of which Jack posted?

The LSBA is not just your ordinary club. If you wish to be a member of an ordinary club that accepts x-bows with open arms, you can excercise your right to join one. If there are none out there then you can always start one. If you do not like the direction the LSBA has laid down, you can either step up and volunteer and attempt to work change from the inside, drop the issue and get over it, or don't renew your membership.

Those are your adult choices. Now act like an adult and excercise one!

bustedassranch · 06-11-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NDNRoger

OMG....

Are you aware that the LSBA is a 501.3.c non profit designed to fight for bow hunters rights in Texas? Do you know that we must follow the By-Laws, part of which Jack posted?

The LSBA is not just your ordinary club. If you wish to be a member of an ordinary club that accepts x-bows with open arms, you can excercise your right to join one. If there are none out there then you can always start one. If you do not like the direction the LSBA has laid down, you can either step up and volunteer and attempt to work change from the inside, drop the issue and get over it, or don't renew your membership.

Those are your adult choices. Now act like an adult and excercise one!

Your right....

d.to provide training for others in safety, shooting skill and hunting techniques;

or how about this one?

d.hunts with archery equipment that meets the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department’s requirements. The LSBA recommends that the heaviest bow that can be handled with accuracy be used in the hunting of large game.

This association no matter how big will only be as strong as the members that participate. When the members that participate get scrutinized on any idea they bring up I.E. the things I brought up on the magazine or this idea to help raise public awareness & money for us, you will just have members. Your right though, I made my "adult choice".

Ronny · 06-11-2009, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NDNRoger

OMG....

Are you aware that the LSBA is a 501.3.c non profit designed to fight for bow hunters rights in Texas? Do you know that we must follow the By-Laws, part of which Jack posted?

The LSBA is not just your ordinary club. If you wish to be a member of an ordinary club that accepts x-bows with open arms, you can excercise your right to join one. If there are none out there then you can always start one. If you do not like the direction the LSBA has laid down, you can either step up and volunteer and attempt to work change from the inside, drop the issue and get over it, or don't renew your membership.

Those are your adult choices. Now act like an adult and excercise one!

That might be a little harsh

Hot4huntin · 06-11-2009, 09:57 PM

Kevin:

As a member of the EC who is elected by the membership of the association, I appreciate your questions, membership, participation in the LSBA and welcome your suggestions! The By-Laws you quoted are the previous By-Laws which were recently amended by a vote of the membership. As Jack indicated, at this time, the LSBA's position on crossbows remains the same.

I personally hope that you will continue to support the LSBA even though we may not see eye to eye on this point.

Please do not hesitate to contact me with any suggestions or questions you have concerning the LSBA. I cannot promise you that they will be implemented or that we will agree, but I can promise you I will listen to what the members have to say.

Thank you for supporting the LSBA!
Dena

LostHawg · 06-12-2009, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Do you think crossbows should be allowed during archery season?
No
221 --------------!------ 72%

Yes
81 -----!---------------- 26.4%

Undecided
5 -!---------------------- 1.6%

This is the online "voice" of the membership on this matter.

bustedassranch · 06-12-2009, 10:29 AM

I was voting no everyday... Heck I even wrote our Governor. It's not that I want them in Oct. They are there now our voice was not loud enough. Like I said before we are only as strong as the members that participate no matter how many "members" we have.

LostHawg · 06-12-2009, 12:47 PM

I think Travis was voting "Yes" on everyday, so he evened you out.

BOBSTER · 06-12-2009, 01:28 PM

Kevin, have you seen who is getting into the x-bows? I was at my local archery shop yesterday, and they said that they have not sold 1 x-bow since this passed. Do we have gun hunters now starting to hunt the archery season or is it hunters that have always hunted the archery season now changing to a x-bow? Gun hunters will care less about a archery season wheither they use a x-bow or can use a gun. This is my opinion as a person, not as a LSBA Rep. Bob

bustedassranch · 06-12-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BOBSTER

Kevin, have you seen who is getting into the x-bows? I was at my local archery shop yesterday, and they said that they have not sold 1 x-bow since this passed. Do we have gun hunters now starting to hunt the archery season or is it hunters that have always hunted the archery season now changing to a x-bow? Gun hunters will care less about a archery season wheither they use a x-bow or can use a gun. This is my opinion as a person, not as a LSBA Rep. Bob

Thats what I am trying to say. I live 15 minutes from Cabela's I LIVE in the archery department. They are telling me crossbow sales have not gone up as of yet. That is what scares me is un-educated gun hunters thinking a crossbow will shoot out 70-80 yards. Hell dont embrace crossbows, but lets do the right thing for the animals. I dont want crossbows in October, I know it was a hard fight to get our own season. That season is now shared with everybody & their dog. Does anybody here see Texas changing that law? Ever? Even if they do, how MLD's? It just seems to me that we are barking up the wrong tree. Lets use it to our advantage. You folks have a great weekend.

I am going to try to piss off PETA this weekend with hog dogging. I hope to have Colton's first knife Kill. I will post pictures.
Kevin

LostHawg · 06-12-2009, 01:34 PM

I suspect Bob's gonna have his work cut out for him.

I bet you could rig a crossbow stock to house a 44 mag.

BOBSTER · 06-12-2009, 06:14 PM

Good luck with the Hog doggin, cannot wait for the pics. Bob

LostHawg · 06-13-2009, 12:58 AM

Hog doggin is on my list of things to do. BAR, I look forward to some pics too.

Tomme · 06-13-2009, 10:10 AM

I guess my two bits worth is let crossbow shooters start the LSCBA (Lonestarcrossbowassociation) and promote hunter safety, ethics, etc. As one who opposed for 16 years the efforsts of crossbow manufacturers to shove this down our throat, I feel no need to spend our time or energy trying to educate, lazy, slob hunters who feel that they can pick up a crossbow and shoot a deer with it at 100 yards.

Crossbow ethics and limitations SHOULD BE TAUGHT BY PARKS AND WILDLIFE AS PART OF THE MANDATORY HUNTER SAFETY COURSE. That way it would eventually reach all new hunters. Besides with the promised hordes of new crossbow hunters bringing in huge buckets of new license revenues to Parks and Wildlife, they should have lots of extra money for this. Shouldn't they?? If not, perhaps the legislature who bought the arguments that this would provide so much more in the way of revenues should fund special training courses.

I think part of this discussion is whether or not LSBA should welcome crossbow shooters into the ranks of LSBA, and/or do we have a duty/burden to recruit them and teach them how to best and most ethically use their equipment. In my opinion the answer to both of those questions is no.

Walking_Eagle · 06-13-2009, 11:04 AM

This my two cents!
The legislature introduced a bill to make the X-bow legal in Archery Season.
The LSBA was the ONLY archery association in the State of Texas to attempt to stop this bill.
The bill passed, leaving the following options:
1. Use a crossbow or not.
2. Landowners allow crossbows or not.
3. Bowhunters allow crossbows on their lease or not.
4. Texas Bowhunting and archery associations by-laws allow the crossbow or not.
5. Take up golf.

This subject is a moot point now and has been rode hard and put up wet. I think it is time to move on to more important current matters that must be dealt with such as:
1. Election of new LSBA Exective Council Members for the coming year.
2. A new editor for the LSBA magazine. (very important)
3. A new Banquet chairperson
4. Membership recruitment methods ( on-going for 35 years)
Your input and ideas would be most welcome to the current and future LSBA E.C., and would be a lot more productive for the growth of our association than wasting time on a dead horse.
Ron Collier Records Chairman

Walking_Eagle · 06-16-2009, 02:57 PM

BAR,
No one in the leadership of the LSBA now or the past has ever given up on any issue that effects our sport. As president, two terms, and legislative chairman years ago, I bear the scars of dealing with the early years of anti-bowhunting that was dealt mostly by TP&W and County Commissioners Court. We won some of the battles, lost a few, and had to make some concessions along the way to maintain the "Special Archery Season", which began in the early '60's on a limited basis of 9 counties in the hillcountry.
I was a part of the conception and beginning of the LSBA in 1974. I still serve the LSBA to the best of my ability.
I seldom express my views on this website, but when I do, you can bet your S.A. they are from experience, not a defeatish attitude.
I do agree with you on one thing, Jack Jetton has done a fine job dealing with the problems this past year, and I am glad he has signed up for another year.
Ron Collier