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I'm looking forward to more of your input. Unless, of course, this is a one-time snipe on your part. I hope its not.
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No, not a "one-time snipe." I am most interested in learning more about something I do not understand: firece opposition to crossbows during archery season. I figured this would be the best place to learn.
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Welcome, and this is a sensitive topic for me so I'll keep it to basics. Archers, must execute the shot in the presence of the game. This means plan the shot, DRAW in the presence of game and HOLD the weapon at draw until the shot presents itself. Most Bows, even with 65-80% lettof, are hard to keep drawn while the game takes it's time meandering thru.
This is the SKILL of archers and the basics of a primitive weapon.
Xbows- are shoulder fired like a rifle, scoped for long distance shooting, high poundage, small bolt for extended range, and can be loaded and held loaded indefinately. This equated to me a modern weapon.
My main objection is that public lands cannot withstand the hunting pressure of an extended MODERN weapon season. We public land hunters have very low sucess numbers, see few deer and not many public land deer reach maturity of 4-8 years. A global passage of bill 1334 would increase pressure on the public deer herd and reduce the public herds age/maturity.
X-bows on controlled access properties are a different issue based on philosophical ideas which I will not present my views on |
This is so full of holes I hardly know where to begin.
"This is the SKILL of archers and the basics of a primitive weapon. "
No it isn't, this is about upper body strength. Skill has nothing to do with it.
"...shoulder fired like a rifle..."
If you use a mechanical release, sight pins, string peep, and stabilizer with a modern compound, dump all those and go to a "slick" bow and I will give you that one.
"...scoped for long distance shooting..."
Define "long distance." Max effective distance with a crossbow is 40 yards, same as a compound.
"...high poundage..."
They have to be because of the shorter bolt and stroke length in order to achieve the same velocity as a compound (300 fps, give or take 10).
"...small bolt for extended range..."
No, the shorter bolt/arrow is so that the bow does not wind up being five feet long. Has nothing to do with range.
"...and can be loaded and held loaded indefinately..."
So can a compound under existing TPWD rules.
"This equated to me a modern weapon."
Lets see, the crossbow has been around since, what, 600 BC? Yep, that's one modern weapon. Also, see the "shoulder fired" bit above, then we'll discuss "modern" weapons.
"My main objection is that public lands cannot withstand the hunting pressure of an extended MODERN weapon season. "
The crossbow is not a modern weapon. Further, in states with long histories of crossbow use, there is no difference in harvest rates between crossbows and "conventional" bows.
"We public land hunters have very low sucess numbers, see few deer and not many public land deer reach maturity of 4-8 years."
Not in counties with the 13-inch rule.
"A global passage of bill 1334 would increase pressure on the public deer herd and reduce the public herds age/maturity."
Virtually all public lands are administered by TPWD and hunting is by permit. Limited permits equals the same hunting pressure.
DZ