Oh, by the way thanks Bobby and Dena for getting me hooked on that dang 3D shooting. I've gone and ordered all the stuff to build a set of arrows just to shoot 3D, so I can save my pretty ones. The one's I used Saturday were build for my compound and spined too stiff. It was really fun, so I'm not complaining too hard, though my wife might when she sees how much money I spent....