Action Item Alert
 

Check out AA is doing to traveling bowhunters.

http://www.bowsite.com/BOWSITE/TF/bg...es=39&forum=36

Since AA is a Ft Worth based business, we need to express our concerns for this type of treatment.

JerryG posted this on TBH and I thought LSBA might want to get involved.

I just went onto the AA site and emailed customer relations on behalf of LSBA expressing our concerns and asking them to reconsider this policy. I will also place phone calls tomorrow to talk to someone in person. I ask all of our members to go to www.aa.com and email american airlines and nicely express your displeasure with this policy. The more voices the more likely we will be heard. The sooner we act on this the more likely we can get it changed and prevent other airlines from following suit.
Gary Lassmann
Vice President

Sent my reply! :x

I'm in. :x

Thanks Gary for your quick response. This type of treatment is just wrong

Email sent. Let's keep this going.

Email sent to AA regarding ...Archery Equipment

FYI: Continental's Website reads as follows (As of today)...

Continental accepts one item of archery equipment per customer in lieu of one piece of free baggage. All items must be properly encased in a suitable container.

An item of archery equipment consists of:

1 bow case containing bows
1 quiver with arrows
Maintenance Kit of sufficient strength to protect items from accidental damage.
Archery equipment carried in addition to the free baggage allowance will be assessed at current excess baggage charge.

Continental is not liable for damage to archery equipment that is not contained in a hard-sided case.

BUT... if you're bringing a bicycle with you you'll have to pay that $80.

Ok I too sent in a reply.

For those of us who are computer illiterate, you might post some directions for how to get to the place to file comments. Once I hit the link that Gary had put (above) I had to do some searching around the AA page to get to the right place. I know for most of you guys this isn't a problem, but to make it easy...

In my email I not only pointed out that I would not be flying AA, but thanked them for helping guarantee my son's job security. Jon, who is an LSBA member, works for Delta/ASA at DFW.

I glad this was found out. We are going to Maine for a bear hunt in mid-September and never thought about any problems with our bows. Has anyone heard anymore about this other than AA being the only culprit? :?

Tomme...this should do it:

https://www.aa.com/apps/utility/cont...questid=885467

FYI...In the future if you hit a page that opens in its own window, without a browser heading to be able to copy/paste the http addie....just right click the subject box, click on properties and it will give you the URL to copy.

Sent mine, i realy would have expected more response than this.
<remember archery in texas or any state is what we make of it. And the #1 way they can hurt us is for bowhunters not to respond!!>
Come on guys lets support our passion and protect us- and others from being over charged just to carry there archery eqt!

bowjunkie
its great to hear that , i hope they keep up the great work.
i thought that was the case but i wasnt sure.
things like this and seeing everyone get involved makes me very proud to be a lsba member and a bowhunter.:lol:

But, if that's the case, I would have to wonder, does it follow that since they have too many to reply to, perhaps now they're not paying attention to them?

Kodiak

But, if that's the case, I would have to wonder, does it follow that since they have too many to reply to, perhaps now they're not paying attention to them?

Kodiak

Keep the emails going. I still haven't been able to talk to a live body at AA, but will keep trying. If we get enough emails in, that the bean counters start to put a number to lost customers as opposed to the $80 surcharge, I think we will get a change in policy. As with most big businesses, the accountants carry the most power.

Doc, I've seen info that says if you fly Continental or Delta you'll be OK. AA and maybe United seem the only villians here.

I did get a reply back at least saying that they'd gotten my email. So the more that's sent the better the chance that the policy will change.

Junkie thanks for putting up the full link.

Done Deal!!!
:wink:
Why would a Texas based organization want to alienate a large percentage of their core clientele?
Simply put, greed!
Because they feel our voice does not matter and we will not spend our money with another provider. 8)

Yep greed seems to sum it up pretty well.

I think that once word gets out that they are charging an extra $80 (was that each way on a round trip ticket or jus one charge?) they may find that they have a bunch of cacellations or that they are losing business. After all, $80 sure makes it worthwhile to check out other carriers.

Proforce, this needs to be brought up at the next EC meeting (or before) and maybe we could get the Pres to send an official on LSBA letterhead. I'd say the sooner the better. There are probably bowhunters heading to Colorado, Wyoming, Canada, etc., even as we speak.

e-mailed also, I was exec platinum last year may not make gold this year, they keep changing policy against the average person. I am flying Delta and have 60,000 miles in the last 3 months, lot of travel, lot of money. AA will not get any. They are arogant, and they do not like hunters at the headquaters. Fly someone else, Delta can use our business!

One of the guys on TBH got a response from AA saying they were going to drop this "bowhunter tax".

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:51:45 -0500, "Americanairlines Wecaare001" wrote:

>
>
> Dear Mr. Evans:
>
>
> I can appreciate your dismay at finding that you would
> have to pay an additional
> charge for transporting archery equipment as checked
> baggage. Well, good news,
> effective tomorrow, September 1, 2004, that will
> change. You see, for some time now,
> our list of "sporting items that travel" have been
> under review. Here are the updated
> specifics regarding your equipment.
>
> In place of one 62 inch checked bag, you may check 1
> bow, 1 quiver, arrows and a
> maintenance kit. The entire bag must weigh under 50
> lbs, and be 62 linear inches or
> less. To recap the specifics of our modified free
> baggage allowance, for tickets
> issued on or after December 4, 2002 for domestic travel
> (wholly within the 50 United
> States) beginning on or after December 15, 2002, each
> ticketed passenger is allowed
> free of charge 2 checked bags up to 50 lbs each. For
> bags over the weight limit we
> will collect $25 for each bag over 50 - 70 lbs and $50
> for each bag over 70 - 100 lbs.
>
>
> To avoid confusion, allow me to explain that the
> baggage size imitation is calculated
> by adding the total outside dimensions of each bag,
> that is, length + width + height.
> Bag allowance for domestic travel is: two bags, 62 in
> each at 50 lbs and one carry-on
> bag, 45 in at 40 lbs. For travel to/from Puerto Rico,
> U.S. Virgin Islands, Canada,
> Mexico, the Caribbean, Central and South America Europe
> and Asia: two free checked
> bags, 62 in at 70 lbs and one carry-on, 45 in at 40
> lbs.
>
> Mr. Evans, thank you for writing. Please travel with
> us soon. We look forward to
> welcoming you -- and your archery equipment -- aboard.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Kay Farmer
> Customer Relations
> American Airlines


I guess grass roots efforts still work sometimes!

It is nice to win one once in awhile! :lol:

That's awsome news. Seems like hitting them in the pocket book works!

Great job every member or non member who emailed aa on the archery tax.

Kind of makes you feel good doesn't it?