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Chunky 03-12-2008 11:37 PM

TP&W hearing
 
Well folks,

I went down to the open hearing today on the proposed changes to the rules. I stood up and had my say. It was only me and a guy named Luke supporting one of the fishing regs.

They told me they are getting input from e-mail and snail mail as well. If you can't make a meeting, send in your opinion. Make a differance.

Mark

LostHawg 03-13-2008 08:15 AM

Did they talk about the draw limit any?

Chunky 03-13-2008 10:10 AM

Tracy,

The way these work goes like this. They do a little slide show and explain all the changes. Then, those who want to speak are called. You get up and say whatever you want in your three minutes. The don't really discuss it with you or even ask questions. They just listen politely and take the input back to Austin.

I did speak to the draw weight issue. I did not mention LSBA and stated at the start of my discussion that I was just representing my self.

Mark

LostHawg 03-13-2008 11:33 AM

Yeah, I went to one back when the draw-loc and crossbows were being discussed. Everyone there that spoke regarding the draw-loc opposed it. The commission rep, just smiled and nodded.

Thanks for showing Mark.

bustedassranch 03-13-2008 06:07 PM

I believe mine is coming up in a few weeks..I need to find the dates again

Hot4huntin 03-14-2008 07:58 AM

Bobby, Hunter and I went and spoke at our Public Hearing on February 29th. We spoke on extending bowfishing for catfish, lowering hunters ed and the minimum draw weight. We only represented the Kana Clan and didn't mention LSBA.

Chunky 03-14-2008 12:10 PM

For the other club members that might read this. It is not that Dena and I don't want to represent LSBA or that we don't want LSBA to have a strong political voice on these issues. We do, and we will. It is my understanding that we will have an official rep, probably Pres or Past Pres in Austin to be the voice of the club. The club needs to have one strong voice. Going to these local meetings let's all of us have input as concered citizens and passionate bowhunters.

Just because I support LSBA, (and agree with most of the club's positions) doesn't mean I can't disagree on some issues and voice my concerns. On these particular issues, I am pretty much in-line with the club position.

Hot4huntin 03-14-2008 02:54 PM

Good points, Chunky!! I'm glad that you brought them up.

It is my understanding that the LSBA will give it's official position on issues at the TPWD Commissioners Hearing. At the public hearing, we were voicing our individual opinions on issues. We should all get involved and let TPWD know that Texas has outdoorsmen and women that are concerned about our future.

Huntinfool 03-21-2008 08:23 PM

Can someone post the dates again? I'd like to attend one if it is not too late.

LostHawg 03-24-2008 10:34 AM

ttt

:hello:

BOBSTER 03-24-2008 11:48 AM

Huntinfool, here is a link to the meetings. The Commission Hearing in on March 26 & 27. Bob

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/business...wide_hearings/

Eric4x4 03-25-2008 10:18 PM

Thanks for the link Bob and glad everyone has been going giving their opinion.

DoubleJ 03-26-2008 10:21 PM

Brian and I will be representing LSBA tomorrow at the Commissioners meeting. I'll post up after it's done and let you guys know how it goes.

BOBSTER 03-27-2008 12:29 AM

Thanks DoubleJ and Brian for taking the time out of your busy schedules to represent the LSBA. Sorry that I could not make it to show support. Bob

Hot4huntin 03-27-2008 10:55 AM

The meeting started at 9:00. Here is a live audio link~

http://icecast.tpwd.state.tx.us/stream.m3u

Thanks to Jack and Brian for attending the meeting!

Chunky 03-27-2008 12:15 PM

I listened to a little, but I am at work so I could not stay for the good stuff.

Bob and Brian...we are with you in spirit.

Hot4huntin 03-27-2008 12:29 PM

Jack and Brian did a great job! But if I understood it correctly I think everything passed. No more bowfishing for catfish, no more minimum draw weight... Is this correct????? :confused:

BOBSTER 03-27-2008 01:31 PM

Jack and Brian, you did a great job. Thanks again for taking the time out to address our concerns at the meeting. Bob

Hot4huntin 03-27-2008 03:58 PM

TPWD Commissioners approved:

No minimum draw weight
Lowering the age of Hunters Ed Certification to 9
and NOT extend bowfishing for catfish

DoubleJ 03-27-2008 09:11 PM

Well boys and girls I am back from Austin and my debut performance before the TPW Commissioners. I will say that it was an interesting experience and I did learn quite a bit about our organization and the political workings of TPW. Dena's recap is accurate. It's official come September there will be no minimum draw weight for archery equipment to hunt game animals, bowfishing catfish will no longer be allowed, and the minimum age for certification in hunter ed and therefore being allowed to hunt unsupervised with any weapon is 9. I want to thank Brian Steward for showing up and giving moral support. He made a statement as well. He also introduced me to Carter Smith the new TPW Executive Director.

For those of you who didn't catch the live version here is the statement, co-written by Brian and I, that I presented to the Commission.

Mr. Chairman, commissioners, my name is Jack Jetton. I am the President of the Lonestar Bowhunter Association, a Hunter Ed Area Chief, and a Master Bowhunter Ed Instructor. I want to thank you for hearing my comment on the elimination of the current minimum draw weight as it pertains to bow hunting. First I would like to applaud Parks & Wildlife’s desires to expand opportunities for Texas hunters and we at LSBA support those desires. In the archery community it is well known that modern archery equipment is much more efficient than the equipment was when the Department and bowhunters determined the current requirements for bow hunting. However we would like for the commission to consider delaying the vote on this action until adequate testing on current equipment has taken place to determine a proper minimum draw weight which will insure ethical, humane harvests of our game animals. The LSBA supports a reduction in the minimum draw weight if that reduction is based on reliable data but we have concerns with a total elimination of the minimum as proposed.

As you are aware the Pittman-Robertson Act allows for taxing hunting and fishing equipment to fund outdoor conservation and education activities. Bows with less than a 30# draw weight are not considered hunting equipment by this law and therefore not taxed.

In the absence of minimal requirements on bow hunters such as mandatory bowhunter education or a minimum draw weight we will end up with hunters in the field ill prepared and ill equipped to ethically harvest game. Imagine if you will an unsupervised 9 year old hunter (which would be allowed under the current proposal re: Hunter Ed) equipped with a 15# draw bow shooting mechanical broadheads. I’m sure you will agree with me when I say that neither the LSBA nor the TPWD would want to increase opportunities if it meant a larger percentage of animals were wounded and not recovered. That situation would not bode well for hunters as a whole.

We are all concerned about Texas hunters, and need to base our decisions on education and sound scientific data. At this point we believe we need more statistical evidence to determine what minimum draw weight is sufficient to sustain a mortal ethical harvest assuming a good shot has occurred. Thus, we, as Stewards of our resource, need to see to it that education of our young and new hunters takes place and statistically based decisions support a reduction of the current draw weight.

Thank you for hearing my comment on draw weight elimination. I hope I have presented some ideas that will help preserve the heritage of bow hunting while at the same time open up those doors to increase hunter opportunities within the State. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.

I hope we represented LSBA well and look forward to working with Brian, and TPW on a couple of issues we discussed today. More to come on that.

Bullrdr82 03-27-2008 10:12 PM

Thank you Jack and Brian for going to Austin to represent the LSBA.

While I understand the TPWD wanted to open up oppertunities for all to paticticipate in this great sport, but I personally do not agree with these decisions.

Oh well, I guess we will just have to deal with it and move on.

bustedassranch 03-27-2008 10:40 PM

Glad they took their time on making their decision. Guess I can stop voting on our home page. I'm not really that happy about the path they chose.
Thanks for going & representing us!

Tomme 03-27-2008 10:46 PM

Guys thanks for taking the time and spending the gas money to go and represent us. I think you did a good job and the association should be proud of your efforts. Unfortunately, I think that a lot of times the commisioners have their minds made up well before the meeting and unless there is an avalanche of opinion against something it will probably pass.

Thanks again for your efforts.

LostHawg 03-28-2008 08:16 AM

I guess the draw loc didn't work out as well as they'd hoped.

biggen 03-28-2008 09:05 AM

Thanks Jack and Brian for showing the TPW that we are still here and are still active in what they do!! Better get to bowfishing for catfish before it changes again!!:banned:


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